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THE A.L.F. UNMASKED – Interview with
David Barbarash
for update: 2005 Interview
Barbarash Interview
Like it or not, the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) are a very real
part of the animal rights movement today. Contrary to popular
misconception they are not a military-style violent fighting force
as some in the mainstream media would have us believe. Ask yourself
who really is doing violent acts to the animals and it certainly is
not the ALF. These activists work in small cells and remain
anonymous to the community at large. There is no known organization
set up calling themselves the ALF, there are no leaders, no
newsletter and no official membership. They do, however, have
spokespeople prepared to contact the media for press releases and
speak out on their behalf.
We recently spoke to one such spokesperson. He is Canadian-born
David Barbarash and he pulls no punches about what he sees as their
role and vision in the movement. The media, animal abusers, and
others, view the ALF as "terrorists" – have a read of the interview
below and you'll see that David Barbarash makes a strong case to
explode the myths.
Whatever way you choose to look at it, the ALF are here to stay
and they have saved thousands of individual non-human lives around
the world. All this by their willingness to put their own freedom on
the line for the sake of freeing animals.
Interviewed by Claudette Vaughan.
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Q. How long have you been a spokesperson for the ALF
David?
A. I began my role as spokesperson for the ALF in
the summer of 1999, over two years ago. |
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Q. Why did you feel it necessary to become their
spokesperson?
A. At the time when I became spokesperson I was
under intense scrutiny and surveillance from the RCMP
(Canada's national police force) because they had falsely
believed and accused me of taking part in violent activities
in the name of animals (charges which have since been
dropped). As well, it has been five years since I was released
from prison as a result of being convicted for liberating 29
cats from an Alberta university. I was looking for a way to
continue my involvement in the ALF, but I knew that I could no
longer continue as an active member, both because of the
police surveillance of my activities but mainly because, as a
result of my arrest and conviction, I was now a known ALF
activist, severely curtailing any future surreptitious
activity. Becoming their spokesperson seemed to me a logical
thing to do, and a way in which I could continue to support
their efforts in an aboveground capacity. |
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Q. What is your own philosophical position in the
Movement?
A. I place the animal liberation movement in the
context of it being only one part of a larger whole. The
oppression and abuse of animals does not happen in a vacuum,
outside of the oppression and abuse of women, minorities, and
other targeted humans. Nor does it happen without the
degradation of the planet. The atrocities we are addressing
and fighting in the animal liberation movement are caused by
people and a society with the same mindset of those who
exploit the planet for profit and pleasure, and those who
further the power-over mentality. Therefore, animal liberation
is only one part of a larger, much bigger problem facing all
of us. Fighting for the rights of animals must be done in the
context of fighting against all abuse and killing. It is not
necessarily individual people who we need to confront about
their abusive actions, but also the attitudes perpetuated by
an institutionalised society. And it makes no sense to fight
for the lives of wildlife without also fighting for their
homes (and ours) – the natural environment. |
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Q. What is the ALF's stance on non-violent direct
action?
A. The ALF has a code of conduct which states that
all actions must be carried out without harming or killing any
life, animal or human. This is the ALF's "non-violence
guideline" and in the history of the ALF actions, that code
has never been breached. The ALF believe that, by definition,
violence cannot be committed against inanimate objects and
things which are not alive, and cannot feel pain and suffer.
One cannot injure a brick or a pane of glass. Therefore the
destruction of property is not viewed as a violent activity,
even if it involves the use of aggressive tactics such as
fire. Further, when certain buildings, tools and other
property are being used to commit violence against life, the
ALF believe that the destruction of property is
justified. |
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Q. Why, in your opinion, isn't legal means a better
choice?
A. I don't believe that we can say, in any instance
of animal abuse, that illegal means would work better than
legal means, or vice-versa. I believe that to achieve our
goals we need to look carefully at the issues and problems
we're addressing at the moment, and after careful strategic
analysis choose the correct tactics for the situation. Animal
liberation will not be achieved from illegal means alone, nor
from legal protesting and lobbying alone either. We need to be
smart about how we move forward, and not discard any tactics.
We shouldn't overlook the legal avenues to change nor should
we dismiss illegal means just because our society, at this
moment in it's history has deemed these actions illegal (while
sanctioning horrendous pain and suffering inflicted on
animals). I believe the most successful way forward to animal
liberation is a multi-pronged attack on all fronts by
different people: while one group is lobbying government
representatives for changes to legislation, another group is
protesting and blockading the labs, and at another time the
ALF will enter those labs to rescue the animals and destroy
the implements of torture. If we all work together in
solidarity and respect each other's paths we will move forward
much quicker. |
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Q. What right does the ALF have to destroy someone
else's property?
A. As I touched on above, the basic premise is that
if someone's property is used to inflict pain, suffering, and
death on innocent animal lives, then the destruction of that
property is morally justified. It is not unlike freedom
fighters in Nazi Germany destroying the gas chambers. The ALF
believe that life is more important than someone's things, and
the ALF will rescue lives from the clutches of their
tormentors, and they will destroy the property so that it
cannot be used again to inflict suffering. The other
justification is noted in their guidelines, which states that
the ALF will inflict as much economic damage as possible on
animal abusers. This is done not so much as to "punish"
abusers, but rather to create an economic disincentive
surrounding their chosen vocation. I believe that most people
who abuse animals do not do so because they enjoy it (of
course, there are a few who do, such as trophy hunters etc.)
but because they are making a profit from it. If we can remove
the profit factor from the animal abuse industries then we
will see some of those industries and businesses shut down. As
for the question of what "right' the ALF has to destroy
someone's property, I must ask what right does that someone
have to destroy life itself? |
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Q. The mainstream media have done a through job in
painting the ALF as thugs and "terrorists". What are your
views?
A. Well, now that we live in the post-Sept 11, 2001
era, we can much more easily see what the real face of
terrorism looks like, and it's certainly not a band of animal
liberationists!
I completely reject the "terrorist" label which law
enforcement and the media have attached to the ALF. A
terrorist is someone who kills and maims people and animals.
Animal researchers, hunters, slaughterhouse workers, and
others fall into the definition of "terrorist" because they
maim, torture, terrorize, and kill lives. The ALF saves lives
without physically harming anyone; this isn't terrorism. I
believe the main reason the ALF have achieved "terrorist"
status with law enforcement is because the ALF destroy
property (and "steal" "property" when they rescue animals). In
our society, it is abundantly clear that property is viewed as
more valuable than life itself. Attacking property will
attract the full force of the police, because our society and
individuals status is based on acquiring things. To attack
someone's stuff means attacking the very psyche of that
person, and of our society. But the simple reality is that
property can be replaced while lives cannot. |
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Q. The American intellectual and human rights
campaigner Noam Chomsky has said that non-violent direct
action simply doesn't work in some situations and he may be
right. He cited Jews in the concentration camps as an example
where non-violent direct action wouldn't work. I think there
is a good argument for the use of force. What has your
experience been?
A. For those of us who are "fortunate" enough to
live in the western world, we live extremely privileged and
comfortable lives. We don't face totalitarian governments, or
death squads, or despots militarily supported by the CIA. For
the poor and oppressed people who do face these types of
situations and live extremely impoverished lives, fighting
back is not an option; it is not only necessary for survival
but it's a right. The debate about violence versus
non-violence does not enter into the realm of discussion for
most people; it is only for us, the privileged, who have the
time and luxury to debate the issue. Our very lives are not
being threatened with death or imprisonment for simply having
ideas or associating with certain people. If they were, we
might have a different attitude towards violence.
I believe everyone has a right to self-defence using
whatever means necessary. If one takes the view that an attack
on one is an attack on all, and that attack on "one" includes
attacks on animals, then an argument can be made for violent
action in defence of life, or even if it's in defence of the
life-support system which sustains us all – our planet and its
environment. But even if the actions taken are violent they
should still be first and foremost considered as self-defence.
We are all animals and as such it is inherent in our nature to
survive, and we will likely do so using any means we are
capable of. |
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Q. How do you protect yourself from government
harassment?
A. There is not much one can do to prevent
government harassment; if the government chooses to focus on
you and harass you, as they did to me for over six years, then
you must endure it the best way you can, without succumbing to
the pressures to stop being active or speaking your mind or
worse, talking about other activists. We do need to be aware
of how the government harasses activists, and once we are
fully informed then we can take measures to protect our
privacy as well as the integrity of our activities. Methods of
security include mainly communications, as most of law
enforcement is based on information-gathering. Encryption
technology is key for any serious activist who uses the
Internet to communicate or organise. Choosing your friends and
associates wisely would be an equal consideration, as most
activists charged with underground activities result from an
associate talking to the police. |
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Q. Finally David, one of the chief questions levied
at non-violent political action is how effective is it really
against an extremely ruthless opponent?
A. Non-Violent action will always be a highly
principled method of taking action against injustice. In the
face of a ruthless opponent we are challenged to maintain our
philosophical position in the face of violence. Sometimes we
need to fight to suppress our reactionary tendencies to strike
back using violence. In the context of the animal liberation
struggle, this is a hard question to answer, because what
would be defined as "an extremely ruthless opponent?" One who
kills more animals after a non-violent protest against his
activities? One who physically harms activists at a
demonstration? I believe that most of animal abuse is not only
sanctioned by our society, but it's institutionalised. Animal
abusers have the support of the law and the populace (to a
large extent) and do not need to become more "ruthless" to
maintain their position and their jobs. Progress in this
struggle will happen over time, as old ways of thinking die
off, as the status quo slowly changes, and as more
compassionate and a more humane society emerges from the
depths these "ruthless opponents" have taken us. The key to
the success of the animal liberation movement is in the
children and the youth, who, with our help and guidance, will
hopefully reject the outmoded ways and terroristic, violent
lifestyles of their parents. |
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Footnote: David Barbarash will gladly accept any donations
that you would like to give to help continue his work.
Email: naalfpo@tao.ca or write to him c/o North American
Animal Liberation Front Press Office, P.O. Box 3673,
Courtenay, BC V9N 7P1, CANADA. Due to interference with their
mail service, please advise them by email first when you send
a letter or donation so they know when to expect it.
THE HISTORY OF THE ALF
The Animal Liberation Front has its roots in 1960s England.
At this time a small group of people began sabotaging hunts
there. This group, the Hunt Saboteurs Association, would lay
false scents, blow hunting horns to send hounds off in the
wrong direction, and chase animals to safety. In 1972, after
effectively ending a number of traditional hunting events
across England, members of the Hunt Saboteurs decided more
militant action was needed, and thus began the Band of
Mercy.
They moved on to destroying guns and sabotaging hunters
vehicles by breaking windows and slashing tyres. They also
began fighting other forms of animal abuse, burning seal
hunting boats as well as pharmaceutical laboratories. After
the jailing of two Band of Mercy members in 1975, word spread,
support grew, and the Animal Liberation Front was begun in
1976. |
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